5G: Myths, Misconceptions and Reality

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What is 5G and what’s all the excitement about? How will 5G change your personal and professional lives? What will be the implication of 5G to your career and how can you be prepared. In this show, we will demystify 5G and separate hype from reality. You will learn what is happening with 5G and how you can capitalize on this change.

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A series of focuses on big data analytics and latest trends in the digital world. I'm your co host, Jeremy Roberts and with me always is my co host, Sameer Khan. Happy covid19 severe Oh my god. Yeah, seriously? Well, we're recording this at the time of interesting trends in the world. And no one really knows the answer to it. Like we thought we were fast paced, high tech world, but no one has been able to figure this out. No, it's um

it's an interesting time. A lot of people are asking me if I'm panicking and, you know, worried and stuff. Yeah, you know, I do have a general sense of worry. You know, and I do worry about, you know, our country and society and

And just how it's gonna change normal trends but for me I I'm so even keeled that I know that I'll start to panic when I see a zombie walking down the road. And

it you know, if I see that zombie then I'll panic a little bit but I think the other day with my kids I was talking about what my Walking Dead kind of zombie off it would be. So I already know my weapons of choice. And my zombie outfit, so I'm ready to go man. It's like, do this zombie time. Let's do this.

Hilarious. It's hilarious.

So so this is a cool topic today. So last last few ones. We've done some interesting topics. We've also interviewed a few different people. We're going to go in a slightly different direction and talk about kind of future state and things to be but it's also going to relate back and this one is very fantastic topic. We're going to talk about 5g what it really

And then, but this one's called 5g myths, conceptions in reality. And I know somewhere in your role you've been doing a lot of, you know, research on the 5g part. So I think it's important that, you know, me too. I've been doing a lot of research on 5g, but I think it's important that our listeners understand how via 5g can affect them. So I guess let's start with Yeah, so so so.

Yeah, exactly. So the topic for today is 5g myths, misconceptions and reality, right.

With 5g rolling out in multiple cities around the world, I wouldn't say multiple nations because that will be not true. But it's rolling out in a large is rolling out in a in a more expedited way than we can think of. But I do think with the topic of today, what we want to do is we want to start

Start from the very basic foundational stuff and then expand on you talking more detail and topic and how this is going to benefit our end users and listeners. Absolutely. Okay, so let's do it. Let's start with the, with the definition you give yours. I'll give my What is your definition of 5g.

So my definition of 5g is 5g is simply a cellular networking standard, just like 4g, or a predecessor to 5g and 3g. Right. These are essentially some set of ground rules on how the network is going to operate. And the fifth generation of those ground rules is what's called 5g. Yes, in in my view, the new

the network like 5g fifth generation of ground rules require a new set up technology a new set of infrastructure equipment, and new cellular devices as well.

what's what's one thing interesting about it is, is 5g is powered by a new technology, which is called is millimeter wave, mm wave. So anyone wants to go Google that they'll figure out but that's what is powered by. And it's very different. We're going to talk more about that. But that's my definition. Very cool. And just to give everybody an idea of the acronyms and all that stuff, so I pulled up this article, I'm gonna read it kind of verbatim what it says. But it says the first generation mobile network was one G, right? That was all about voice. That's because that was back whole day of flip phones and the phone that you installed in your car with an antenna that you had to kind of screw into the window. And like currently, damn, right, right. Yeah, that one right.

Second, so then after that was two g, two g was the enablement of voice and texting. That's when texting started to be that's when you didn't have a bad phone. That's when you started having fun.

Phone pagers we came around that time. So I was 2g, after 2g was 3g. So 3g meaning third generation, right? That was about voice texting and data around the world. There's a lot of countries that still use that combination of voice texting and data. When you think about it, voice and text really are, you know, they're not done over data. A lot of people think it's like voice and stuff. No, that was traditional voice. That was traditional text. That was traditional 3g, right?

But yeah, so then it came 4g and a lot of people are actively using 4g today. 4g, is really just everything that 3g was just faster. It was like, when I find the iPhone x s, it's the X ray that like the whole smartphone revolution with the video screaming, right, exactly. That's when Voight came on board it and now when you think about with a lot of people, a lot of people are actually doing you know different things.

Types of,

you know, voice and text and data. But none of that is done through traditional methods that's actually done through, like Voice over IP or even data driven, text driven voice. So when you think about 5g, it's very, very fast. You know, and you think about it. I, I have a personal interest in this too. I think that 5g is going to be is going to spur innovations. I think 5g is going to create newer technology innovations, like crazy, it's not just going to be like, Hey, we're going to do a few more things. No, it's going to be like, two x three x the amount of innovations you've seen lately. And what it is, it's going to be the platform that enables emergent technologies and it's going to allow IoT to really become, you know, mainstream, right. And so I guess, let's also describe IoT. Make sure because we have all different levels of listeners. Right Trisha.

IoT is Internet of Things. IoT can be anything from the Alexa home or the air pod that you have in your house to Apple air pod have a home Alexa thing. Or you can have you know, your, your fridge that tells you the weather and stuff or it tracks when your milk has gone in it detects it or, you know, is your watch your Apple watch all these different things like a fact you have Apple CarPlay, or the fact that your

cars send signals back to like, if you have a cool test that sends signals back. That's all IoT. Right? Right. Right. Absolutely. So very cool stuff. So I guess let's go into this. Let's talk about what is the difference between a 4g network for 5g and 5g Wi Fi right, because a lot of people get confused between the 5g Wi Fi and 5g network. So first off,

my thought is the 5g the 5g

The fifth generation cellular networking standards should not be confused with five gigahertz Wi Fi, which we already have access to in our homes. Okay, so before we go on that, so most people, when you look at your when you look at your Wi Fi, sometimes when they set it up, you're going to see two different signals, you're going to see something that says 2.4, g, h, z and five g hc. Right? So I just want to make sure everybody's aware of what Yeah, absolutely. Go for it. And those two are frequency bands like exactly like you said, the 2.4 gigahertz and five gigahertz, right? When five gigahertz was originally Wi Fi only had 2.4 gigahertz and five gigahertz was launched. What it simply does in a very basic way, it offers more channel to prevent congestion. And for those who are a little bit more geeky, they know how like right now for experiencing slow speed because a lot of people are online and using Wi Fi you could probably

Play with your Wi Fi channels by making adjustments to it with 5g five gigahertz does is offers you the capability to find the best possible channel. But across a larger spectrum of channel, you know, like the simplest example could relate to maybe like few decades ago, when we had television, we only had one channel in it. And everyone were just glued to the TV just watching that one channel. And then when the satellite television revolution came in, you had access to so many different channels, and now you have access to all the online channels as well. So you have a ability, like someone's watching something else, and you can go probably watch something else. So it's a similar concept but more related to your Wi Fi. I'm digressing a little bit but the 5g network.

As explained it's very different from the eg five gigahertz Wi Fi capability. And it's more about the standards and rules of a cellular network.

Now if I were to compare that to the 4g, and some of the points that you already alluded to Jeremy, if you remember, like, you know, 4g, and 4g LTE, it gave birth to the mobile streaming revolution, right. And that's where your smart smartphones and iPhones and all that came in.

He wasn't there. We could not have iPhones and Android say Samsung and none of those devices would even function. Right? Yeah, they were planned for the 4g, 4g and 4g LTE is cray cray gave to the mobile app revolution. And when 4g was launched in 2009, the download speeds went from 384 kbps which was 3g to 100 Mbps so significant difference. But when 5g is going to be thought that was the holy grail, like the world's changing and we're like we're in Super age, but when 5g is launching the 5g is expected to get the speed of 10 gigabits per second. That's like hundred

times better than 4g. So in simple terms, let's just help people understand. You can literally download a two hour movie on a 5g speed. If you get the full speed in 3.6 seconds.

That could have taken like six to 10 minutes on a 4g and 26 hours on 3g. Imagine like, going on a flight. You're like, oh, man, I should have downloaded that movie. Boom. Done, right? Oh, so much so much. Yeah. It's like when you're crazy. And you download movies. Sorry, it's gonna take 20 minutes to download. Oh, sorry. Yeah. And it's interestingly to download is one small part of the benefits of 5g, right? The biggest advantage which I feel personally feel the biggest advantage of 5g is the latency. What it means is the amount of time for you to get response. Yeah. So here's an example.

With 4g, let's say if you're pushing an app and you're trying to access

similar information, obviously, the app connects to the cloud and you get information from the cloud. It takes approximately 100 millisecond which like point one second.

Although a person like you and me, we don't notice this, but there are your you were talking about some of the IoT devices. Like with 5g, the response time is reduced to one millisecond with like a thousandth of a second.

So that latency is the huge differentiator when it comes to 5g. It's not I mean, there's definitely the download speeds. But for the end user, like you know, who are not necessarily technically savvy, but for industrial application, that's the exciting part is the response time and latency. Well, absolutely. So I think one of the things I want to do is also reference back to this article is a pretty cool article. And they're talking about this idea that you know, on the way to 5g and the Internet of Things, and that the connectivity is really at the heart of the industry transformation right 5g is going to play

This huge role, and it's going to be the mastermind really behind the evolution of communication. And really, in this evolution, it's going to cause it's going to change the way businesses and CIO and societies react as a whole. And you're sitting there thinking, Okay,

Jeremy smear pretty cool guys, you know, they kind of know what they're talking about with this stuff. But they're now telling me that faster internet speeds are going to evolution or revolutionize and change the way business and society reacts as a whole. I mean, it will. It will. So let's talk quickly about that. Because I think it's interesting to for people to not for people that don't get it or maybe not believe us why 5g is that big of a deal. Why it's so exciting for us. Yeah, that's a great point. And I feel 5g is exciting because it allows devices and technology to interact at superspeed. Right and it opens up a new new world of communication. Think about like

It allows the car today you have your automobile to communicate with each other to maintain safe distance. Some of the smart cars can do that. But majority of the cars on the road they cannot do that 5g gives the ability to even for dumb cars if you implement 5g sensors on a dumb car, and then that interacts with a smart card now, same thing your refrigerator, you give an example where you're in the grocery store, and you want to know which items you're missing, you forgot to prepare your grocery list. If your if your refrigerator becomes a 5g enabled smart device, then now it will immediately send in information to your mobile device to let know what are the different grocery items that you need. So you don't have to go worry about like coming back home and trying to figure out what you need. 100% of good. Yeah, yeah. So So here's what here's my analogy to so when I talk about on this podcast, we talk about a lot of times here and I always come back

Back to this thing about like an open garden, a closed garden, we talk about fragmented ecosystems, interconnected technologies and interconnected datasets to be able to drive.

You know, you know, combined data to be able to make better decisions and so on. Think now of this idea that you're connecting everything from cars, meters, you know, machine sensors, electronics. This even means the interconnectivity of data, all the different data points now can bring in, in real time at these blazing fast speeds, that you now have an ecosystem. So the thing is, in the data and marketing world, we talk about building a strong ecosystem, right. That's what this big platform plays are. I know at Adobe, where I was talking about these platform plays, right? We're trying to say, we're going to build this connected layer, or this platform layer where all your technologies are talking to each other and that way, you're making a single data decision on collision.

active, connected data rather than dispersed data and your you know, remember the study that we were a part of back in the IBM days of Forrester and 35 different technologies to be able to, to make a decision? Yeah, yep. That's three KPIs, it's 105 KPIs to make a decision, separate KPIs, and you're sitting there thinking, This is impossible. But you need to make sure all those KPIs and all that data is integrated into one place. Now think of that in the internet of things in the IoT world, having this ecosystem where everything talks to each other, and everything's connected together. Holy crap. I mean, this is where you know, this is going to revolutionize the way we do business. This is going to revolutionize the way that we act as a society and the way we do marketing, everything is going to be connected at lightning speeds. That's Yeah, no, that's a great point and kind of piggybacking on the point you mentioned. 5g has also created a new type of given way to a new type of computing called edge computing.

Now going back to the cloud come you come from the cloud computing background, both of us, if you go look at the traditional cloud computing, the way it operates is, the end user is trying to get information, the information is transferred into the cloud server. And then all the processing happens at cloud server, it comes back to the end user device. Again, some of the processing happened, the end user device and the information is available. Now, because of this transfer of information and the processing happening in the cloud, that there's a, there's a high dependency on these cloud servers to have very high processing speed. And because of the massive amount of data being transferred between the two devices, it impacts the response time and the response time is higher and higher. And what happens is because you're needing cloud computing to work on the processing, you're needing your cell phones to also do some processing. Today cell phone comparatively what's going to happen five years from now.

bulky, and the the battery is also battery is also very small the battery life is small, right? What's going to happen is Fitch edge computing, it's kind of the middle layer. It's kind of the middleman between the cloud server and your devices like a cell phone. Yep. What it does is the middleman it does to processing your AI computing and capabilities before even you have to send it to the cloud servers. So essentially, your cloud servers become more and more of a very advanced processing unit while all the intermediary data processing and AI intelligence capabilities is done by this middleman edge computing infrastructure. So it puts less than less effort on your cell phone to do that. And if you know like some of the movies they show like how cell phones are completely becoming like

maybe a small thin device or maybe a light on your on your path.

And you can just press the button or the light. Why that is possible, because now you're depending on this edge computing and cloud computing, and the 5g network that is connecting all of this to take care of the processing, and you experience very, very low latency and the response time is significantly higher. So ultimately, you're not going to need a heavy battery bulky phone with a bunch of processor in it. You just going to need an interaction to an edge computing and your cloud server through 5g. I agree. Yeah. And so I think to sum it up, 5g kicks ass. That's,

I'm excited about it. Right. Okay, so now let's get into the topic we talked about today's topic is what 5g misconceptions reality. We talked about what it is, how it works, how connection to you. Now we're going to talk about some of the myths of the 5g network. So I think, smear here we presented five different myths, right? So yes, yeah, let's talk about that. Okay, Myth number one. What is the thing that's

bothering you today that everybody's saying is Myth number one today?

Well, I think the myth number one is a lot of people say, okay, 5g is already launched. Can I download my movie at a movie in two seconds?

Because at the end user, they want to see the benefit, and especially when it comes to the streaming media, right? Yeah.

My thought is right now. No. We are at the very early stage of 5g launch. And yes, so cellular network providers, you see their marketing ads, and they're making big claims off the 5g rollouts nationwide and you start reading articles you see Oh, China's already implemented 5g on three different network. Korea's following it and UK is doing that what is us doing?

When we stated the 5g are the new standards. And these standards require new technology infrastructure and setup. So just by rolling the new standards, people should not expect even they have 5g devices even then you shouldn't expect

That you should receive the 100 gigabyte speed at the 10 gigabyte speed that we talked about. And immediately start downloading the video in two seconds, you need to have the ecosystem you need to have the capabilities to have the full potential of 5g

even in China, like China has rolled out 5g and three different networks but that still doesn't mean that people are downloading movies in two seconds. There is still infrastructure that needs to be updated. So that's I would say summit number one is don't get too excited too quickly. There's more to come. The the the output of the input have to match the capabilities of technology capabilities, right? You have to have a device and accept it and you have to have the output of actually pushing out real 5g

right, so if you don't have both it no work. I'm just gonna say it is. Don't pretend like it does because it doesn't so yeah, very good point. Okay, number two, will I have to throw away my current 4g devices

When 5g rolls out, do people think there's gonna be some mass dumping of, of just stuffing? Like I'm gonna throw everything away? Because all they want is 5g?

Right? Yeah, no, I would say No, definitely not. Your current 4g device will continue to work until foreseeable future. 4g is not going anywhere. No, there are no plans to killing 4g and 5g comes in there are plans to move from 4g to 5g just like we did from 3g to 4g. Yep. Now I wouldn't wreck I personally, I'm not going to buy the 5g device right now. I'm just going to wait until the cellular network. Oh, I am you know I am because I'm you you are you're an early adopter. You definitely know who's probably already have a device now.

I do. I'm gonna stay on the line because I'm crazy, but nice. Yeah. So no, no, I think there's gonna be a lot of early adopters that do that. But my recommendation is because the ecosystem is not ready. There's so many different constraint like six

The promise that these network providers are making when it comes to the guarantee and speed, latency. All of those are inflated right now. And even the industrial application and expectation from 5g are inflated. But very quickly, though, that's going to change. I'm not saying that there's going to continue to be that way, very quickly, it's going to change and then you will have the ability to have the full potential of 5g both for your personal use, and business and industrial use. So my recommendation is no, you don't have to throw away your phone.

Just wait and watch till everything moves in the right direction. And you can then start switching into 5g, if that's what you want. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, it's going to take a while for it to happen. You know, it's one of those things to where there could be some software updates on your end that could help you utilize that network faster. But eventually it's going to be a hardware update that you're going to need in order to be able to activate true 5g so

Right. Don't be like me, don't be an early adopter, wait for the early ones really want to be sure not to start throwing stuff away. But like I said, Even today, when you don't have good connection, you're still gonna get 3g. You know, you're all the other G's are still out there. Right? So it's not right have to hurry up and do stuff. Unless you're hardcore like me, I highly recommend you go stand in line because it's fun. Just take a snack, you know? Yep. Okay, great. Number three, weather data will be impacted. So we actually used to work at the company that owns the Weather Channel, right? They're the ones actually buying weather data, and they actually had access to all weather data, which would then be able to go and help retailers make decisions and manufacturers make decisions based on upcoming trends in weather. What do you think they're about the weather data? How's that going? The impact of weather data is there's no conclusive study although there are some myths out there that could say some scientists they say 5g will

interfere with the satellite and historical weather data is going to get messed up now, and what would the ramification of that is it could have bad weather prediction. So honestly, one thing I was saying my points like the wind event predictions still very sketchy.

They're not 100% accurate. So that's one thing. It's a guesstimate. Right, even now with all the all the advances, on top of that, since 5g is still in the initial stages, and the infrastructure is not present.

At least in the near term. We don't see any massive impact on the satellite data or the historical weather data.

But there is there the conclusive tests have not been done here. So I couldn't say yes or no, but at least in the near term, you shouldn't see anything like that. No, don't worry, everything's fine. It's fine. Okay, next one. 5g is hazardous for health. So in the same way

That.

windmills, and you know the sound doesn't cause cancer and some of these other

weird myths that people are saying out there.

5g, are you thinking that 5g is going to have these higher frequency radio waves that are gonna go through my skull and fry my brain? And you could possibly die because it's a stronger signal? Well, let's, let's ask Dr. Khan here to see what his thoughts are. His fight is 5g going to fry your brain. And first of all, I'm not a doctor. So please,

please consult your respective physicians. But I would say

if you look at it, you know, if you do some study, any kind of radio or microwave signals are not good for health for prolonged and continuous usage. Right. And that's there is no myth that that's a fact like people have experienced a loss of hearing people have experienced some health impacts.

Because they're consistently on the phone or they're consistently doing some stuff, and there are some, you know, ergonomic best practices and how you device and all that can. Now having said that,

there are there have been some limited studies that show that 5g could have even more significant impact on our health. As I said, those are limited studies that have been done in an environment where 5g was not rolled out there was very early on maybe somewhere in the early 2000s. In those studies cannot be generalized. For mass audience alike. Right now, scientists are doing studies to see a certain medicine is going to be generalized for all coronavirus patient, we can just roll out medicine without doing a conclusive study and trials. And that's the same thing for any kind of study related to 5g. If once if it starts rolling out and then they will have an opportunity to do a much more wider scale study.

To see if there are any true impacts on health are not killed them is TBD.

And you know, let's wait and watch what happens. And hopefully not because there are being studies being done that shows that 5g just like any other network, and it will not necessarily have any impact on the health. But again, those are the two sides of the coin. And we're kind of in the in the boat. We're like, let's see what happens. Okay, so this next one, this last one here is kind of a loaded question, or a loaded myth, because it's going to say, Is this 5g? Will it make my phone faster? Are you talking?

Yeah. Will it make my phone today faster? Will it make my future phone faster, but does it actually make the phone faster? Or what does it make faster?

Well, yeah, that I like you said it's a loaded question, right. I'm not sure if phi g makes the phone like a

4g phone faster because the 4g phone is a device. It has its own processor. It has processing capabilities. What you could experience let's say if you have a 4g device on a 5g network, you could experience better downloads. And you'll see some gains in performance improvement when you try to access something online and try to download something on a 5g network.

On a 5g device using 5g, definitely the phones will be faster because those are device built for 5g, those will have the next generation of processing capabilities doesn't matter which vendor you pick. So obviously, your device will be faster at the same time because they're 5g enabled, which as we mentioned earlier, they're like 100 times better download speeds, and significantly better latency and response time, you're definitely going to see a significant improvement in speed and response time on your devices. So that's my thought. What do you think Jeremy? I completely agree. I

I think exactly that it's going to make the device fat, it'll make the communications faster. So what I always come back to, it's not really, it's not really the device. It's not really the processing speed. It's one of those things where it's just like, Hey, is 5g going to make my computer faster? No, dude, if you have a faster processor in your computer, that's what makes your computer faster, right? If you have more storage drive, or just different hardware components of it, it's the communication and the transference of data. That's faster. That's exactly what it is. And so, you know, hopefully, that those five myths,

you know, summarize that. So before we close out today, one of the things I want to make sure and we're going to kind of throw this new idea out. What can you do today? You're sitting there thinking, Okay, great, Samir, and Jeremy, you told me all this thing about 5g and now you're telling me, you should get ready, ready for it. It's going to slowly start to roll out in 2020. And I had a friend recently, just

texted me while we're on doing this podcast right now, and we're talking about 5g and all this stuff. He randomly just said, Let me see what exactly he said, because this is shocking, by the way,

because of the effects of 5g, the IoT market by 2025 will be a $1.5 trillion market. Wow. Oh, wow. I just facepalm craziness. So. Okay. Yeah. Because of 5g, and it's not IoT has accelerated that because of that is because of what 5g can do. 5g is going to revolutionize the IoT industry in just the data technology industry. It is insane. So I guess Okay, so, you give Let me ask Samir for some of his insights, and then I'll follow up with my insights. So let's say you're a marketer today, right? And you're sitting there thinking or an analyst today, what can I start doing at my companies or anything I should be doing or should I start getting ready or what can I possibly do?

today to get ready for 5g. Yeah, that's a great question. And I like to have people think about the time when cloud computing was launch, right? And if you're a business, what are the implications for your business? The things that will benefit from Cloud computing. Like for example, a lot of people were managing all of their documents in the hard coded files cabinets right? In when cloud computing allow you to move your documentation, from your file cabinets to online in digitization, where you can manage all of your documents online because of the cloud computing revolution. More and more businesses starting move in that direction when they felt comfortable.

And so that's for small businesses. Now, if you're looking at the large businesses, large businesses have different implications and they're they're more about competition, significant compensation worldwide presence and efficiencies and cost in strategic

partnerships. So in that area, some of the businesses have already started investing in 5g infrastructure capabilities where it's going to benefit them. like Amazon, for instance, is utilizing long haul autonomous truck for I don't know how long like maybe for a few years now. They're using these long haul autonomous truck. I'm pretty sure with 5g, whatever capabilities that are using right now, and if you augment that with 5g, that's going to be a huge advantage. All of the fleet networks today like you, Uber, they're testing that autonomous vehicles, grocery stores, like Kroger, they're testing autonomous delivery vehicle, they're going to have a huge advantage with the help of the 5g networking capabilities. So if it depends on what part of the business you are, what what cycle it is, what type of company you are, and it will have different implications for 5g like in my company, we're also looking into what are the implications of 5g for our business and

so on so forth. I completely so I think from my standpoint is, the best thing you can do today is continue to do what Samir and I've been preaching on this podcast and also in our in our, in our jobs is continue to build an open garden ecosystem continue to build connectivity, get rid of the data fragmentation across all of your different tools and work today to build a strong analytical foundation for all your data comes into one place a single source of truth. If you're able to start building those pipes today, for all of your data and connectivity of all your different 35 plus tools go into one place where you're making a decision on a single source of truth. That is the beginning stage, because all 5g is going to do is make it quicker and make it faster and your computing is going to be even better. But if you can't just start from scratch and say, holy crap 5g is out now.

All of a sudden we're going to have data, better data, we're going to be able to make better decisions. No, you didn't build the infrastructure to be able to allow something like that. Right. And for me, it's that simple. Do what you're supposed to be doing already. 5g will just make it better. I agree. Cool. So where do we go from here, Samir? I think we got some interesting updates on what we're going to be doing in the next week or so. Right. I think we're talking Yeah, yeah. Yeah, some some exciting updates. Yeah, I was gonna say, Jeremy and I have been thinking for this while like, we have been communicating to our podcast listeners through audio for a long time. And it's been the one side of communication, other than the feedback that we received, like we talked about it, and then you listen to us. We're gonna flip that. And we're planning on hosting a live q&a session for the very first time for our

Just for a podcast listeners. And I think this will be a fantastic opportunity for us to interact with you and the same time for you to ask questions about digital about data about your career or anything that you like.

If you if you know, not sure if you've noticed that Jeremy and I bring to table 40 years of combined experience, and we have been doing coaching and mentoring a variety of different forms for many different organizations, you know, some of the big name brands like Wipro and Rackspace, and IBM, and so on and so forth. So I feel this is a really good opportunity for us to open up the floor and have some of our listeners join us. The details of the event will be added to the show notes of this podcast. And you can find more details on our website, which is analytics today podcast.com slash event, which is analytics today podcast.com slash event and we'll share more details on about that.

In a session so we look forward to seeing the live in this q&a session. Yeah, and we'll be posting these on our social channels or various social channels if you're following us there too. That way you can understand dates times. The fun stuff. We'll have a party, you know, you'll enjoy it. Cool. Great. Awesome.

Yay. Cool. So a happy happy coronavirus day smear.

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there's nothing happy about that. Okay. So Happy Friday. Yeah, I like Friday. Go enjoy spending time with your family. That's what's important. various brands that you haven't talked to a long time. Remember that book that you wanted to write they'll start writing it you remember all those? Start doing? Go paint that room go fix the things that your your significant other has been telling you to go fix in the house for six months. Just go do it.

Yeah, I like that. Very good. Call man. Happy Friday and excited to see you guys live soon. And thank you again, Samir. This has been fantastic. Thank you.

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